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zimmerman's account that he -- that mr. martin was over him, leaning forward at the time he was shot. >> that was just one of several key moments in dr. di maio's testimony that supported zimmerman's claim that he shot martin in self-defense. jose baez is joining us. also joining us is sunny hostin and our legal correspondent jean casarez. it looks like that testimony was pretty strongly in favor of the defense, jose. how important was it? >> it's extremely important. for one thing, and that is that this trial has moved into a direction of who was on top, whose voice is that. wolf, i know vince di maio, i've worked with him. his book on gunshot wounds is the bible when it comes to gunshot wounds and is used by every forensic pathologist across the country. what this man says is extremely important. but the fact of what he says it's consistent with isn't necessarily definitive but the lack of prosecution on this issue gave it a lot more weight than it could have been. it still doesn't answer the question of who was the initi
zimmerman's account that he -- that mr. martin was over him, leaning forward at the time he was shot. >> that was just one of several key moments in dr. di maio's testimony that supported zimmerman's claim that he shot martin in self-defense. jose baez is joining us. also joining us is sunny hostin and our legal correspondent jean casarez. it looks like that testimony was pretty strongly in favor of the defense, jose. how important was it? >> it's extremely important. for one thing,...
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zimmerman was on top of mr. martinez -- >> objection, leading and mischaracterization of the facts. >> can i finish my question please? >> if it is a mischaracterization of the facts i need you to rephrase your question. >> it's not, your honor. >> that is for the jury to determine. >> she said she was looking out the window and that she believes she was looking at the individuals when the shot was fired. she said that at the time the shot was fired that mr. zimmerman was on top and that mr. martin was face down. is that possible given the forensic evidence that you know in this case? >> no, sir, it is not possible. >> mr. martin -- >> he was shot from the front. >> so would her statement have done you any good in this case? >> no, sir. >> in fact, that would be an example of how an eyewitness just gets it wrong. >> yes, sir. >> you did consider john goode's statement to the extent that he was the person -- >> objection, leading question. >> sustained. >> john goode testified trial that when he looked out his ba
zimmerman was on top of mr. martinez -- >> objection, leading and mischaracterization of the facts. >> can i finish my question please? >> if it is a mischaracterization of the facts i need you to rephrase your question. >> it's not, your honor. >> that is for the jury to determine. >> she said she was looking out the window and that she believes she was looking at the individuals when the shot was fired. she said that at the time the shot was fired that mr....
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the only one present there is mr. zimmerman. you have to go by what he's saying. >> i respectfully beg to differ. there was another person there in. >> there were a couple other witnesses. >> i mean respectfully the other person there is not among us anymore? >> right. because he's the only one communicates. >> he can't speak because he's dead? >> yeah. >> okay. were you aware that the deceased, the victim in this case, trayvon martin was on the phone with lady? >> yes, sir. >> you didn't review her statement, did you? >> no, sir. >> when you worked with the medical examiner's office you in most cases attempted to find out all the information before you came to an opinion? >> it depends on what the case is about. often the information from the witnesses goes more towards the manner of death rather than the cause of death. in this case there's no question the manner of death. >> are you suggesting that in all the witnesses testimony should be disregarded? >> for my purpose, not for the jury but for my purposes it's not important
the only one present there is mr. zimmerman. you have to go by what he's saying. >> i respectfully beg to differ. there was another person there in. >> there were a couple other witnesses. >> i mean respectfully the other person there is not among us anymore? >> right. because he's the only one communicates. >> he can't speak because he's dead? >> yeah. >> okay. were you aware that the deceased, the victim in this case, trayvon martin was on the phone...
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zimmerman's fault that led to his death, correct? >> correct. >> and if it was not your son screaming, if it was in fact george zimmerman then you would have to accept the probability that it was trayvon martin who caused his own death, correct? >> i don't understand your question. >> now, goldie, i was very uncomfortable with that exchange. i will speak to their credit when zimmerman's mother was on the stand they had a similar kind of question for her. what was o'mara getting out with that line of questioning for sabriybrina fulton. >> you don't want to believe that your son was out to do no good that night. i think if you use o'mara's logic then you have to ask mrs. zimmerman if you don't hear your son on this tape don't you have to see your son as a murderer. that is a difficult thing on either side. for him to ask her if she believes her son caused her own death. had he not gotten out of the car, what did trayvon martin do to cause george zimmerman to follow him. at the end of the day sybrina fulton's testimony i think was much
zimmerman's fault that led to his death, correct? >> correct. >> and if it was not your son screaming, if it was in fact george zimmerman then you would have to accept the probability that it was trayvon martin who caused his own death, correct? >> i don't understand your question. >> now, goldie, i was very uncomfortable with that exchange. i will speak to their credit when zimmerman's mother was on the stand they had a similar kind of question for her. what was o'mara...
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mr. zimmerman is expected to go in hiding as cities raise themselves for potential protests. what's get more on this now. i'm joined live by former u.s. federal prosecutor. thank you for your time today. we appreciate it. given your experience as a federal prosecutor, was zimmerman's acquittal the outcome you expected? >> yes, very much so. ,nce the fact came out in trial there was reasonable doubt as to whether george zimmerman acted in self-defense or not. there were a number of witnesses the prosecution put on that help the defense in a great way, so i'm not surprised at the verdict at all. >> a case has triggered a lot of soul-searching in the u.s. when it comes to racial profiling and fears debate over self-defense laws. talk to me about the stand your ground statute that exists not just in for lorna but other states and the role that laid in this acquittal. in many states, not the majority, but many states, there is a law called stand your ground, which means if you are in a confrontation and severe force is used against you, you have a duty to retreat if you can retrea
mr. zimmerman is expected to go in hiding as cities raise themselves for potential protests. what's get more on this now. i'm joined live by former u.s. federal prosecutor. thank you for your time today. we appreciate it. given your experience as a federal prosecutor, was zimmerman's acquittal the outcome you expected? >> yes, very much so. ,nce the fact came out in trial there was reasonable doubt as to whether george zimmerman acted in self-defense or not. there were a number of...
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what really a counts is the way mr. zimmerman said it. listen to the tape. see if in that you walk away. this point right here, you walk away with ill will, spite, hatred and towards trayvon martin. he's running. okay. and the next second, which way is he running? so, not going to do it, again. but if i would ask you which way i was walking and i walked out the door and came back, what information would you have? that i walked out the door. why? because you probably watched me do it because i just asked you which way am i walking. so, ill will, spite and hatred or innocence? i would suggest that at this point, this is a conversation. don't forget, when they're doing this conversation, they had no idea we were going to be here today. they had no idea that we would have a ten-foot graphic of every sentence that they talked about. they were just talking. what's he doing? let me know. where is he now? which way is he running? he gets out of his car. now, at this point, i think the state, maybe this is a another break point. this is a break point where george sai
what really a counts is the way mr. zimmerman said it. listen to the tape. see if in that you walk away. this point right here, you walk away with ill will, spite, hatred and towards trayvon martin. he's running. okay. and the next second, which way is he running? so, not going to do it, again. but if i would ask you which way i was walking and i walked out the door and came back, what information would you have? that i walked out the door. why? because you probably watched me do it because i...
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. >> on a scale of 1 to 10, where would mr. zimmerman fit? >> like i said, about a one. >> reporter: finally, judge debra nelson ruled testimony regarding marijuana levels in trayvon martin's system will now be evidence for jurors to consider, a critical ruling as this trial moves into day 11. >> back live in the courtroom here in sanford, florida, you can see attorney mark o'mara and daniel schumaker making his case, explaining exactly what he does to the judge. the judge, we expect, will rule and decide whether this jury will see that computer animation that he created of the shooting on february 28, 2012. wolf, there was another big ruling that came in yesterday, that the judge decided evidence of marijuana in trayvon martin's system, that it will be allowed as evidence in this case. now, just a few minutes ago, i spoke with daryl parks, he's the attorney who represents the martin family, about what that could mean to this case. let's listen. >> well, i think there's a problem, and i think if you listen to some of the statements that were
. >> on a scale of 1 to 10, where would mr. zimmerman fit? >> like i said, about a one. >> reporter: finally, judge debra nelson ruled testimony regarding marijuana levels in trayvon martin's system will now be evidence for jurors to consider, a critical ruling as this trial moves into day 11. >> back live in the courtroom here in sanford, florida, you can see attorney mark o'mara and daniel schumaker making his case, explaining exactly what he does to the judge. the...
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this insjury consistent with mr. zimmerman's head having impacted a sidewalk? >> yes, sir. >> reporter: the prosecution jumped on a key question that the defense expert couldn't answer. >> you're not testifying here as to who started what led up to the death of trayvon mart snn. >> that is correct sir. >> and not saying who attacked who, whether it was george zimmerman who attacked trayvon martin or whether it was trayvon martin that attacked george zimmerman, you can't say that, correct? >> that's correct, sir. >> in fact, you can't testify as to who threw the first punch? >> that's correct, sir. >> and you can't say whether it was trayvon martin defending himself or george zimmerman defending himself, in terms of when this first started? >> when it first started, that's correct, sir. >> reporter: the prosecutor got the witness to admit the defense was paying di maio $400 an hour for his expertise, but di maio said the case didn't require a lot of his time. >> up to yesterday, $2400. this is not exactly a complicate
this insjury consistent with mr. zimmerman's head having impacted a sidewalk? >> yes, sir. >> reporter: the prosecution jumped on a key question that the defense expert couldn't answer. >> you're not testifying here as to who started what led up to the death of trayvon mart snn. >> that is correct sir. >> and not saying who attacked who, whether it was george zimmerman who attacked trayvon martin or whether it was trayvon martin that attacked george zimmerman, you...
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at the time mr. martin was shot. this is consistent with mr. zimmerman's account. that he, that mr. martin, was over him leaning forward at the time he was shot. >> obviously if you're leaning forward the implication that you're on top because the clothes are hanging away from your body. so does this mean the state can't get a conviction? "out front" tonight our legal analystses. great to have all of you with us. i want to start with you, mark. dr. dimaio has impressive credentials. you say pathologist, aren't there a lot of them? how do we know this guy is legit, the guy? he has 40 years of experience. he served as the chief medical examiner in san antonio and he was the former editor in chief of the journal of forensic medicine and pathology. how significant was his testimony? >> he knocked it out of the park and i think anybody who observed him and listened to him knows that. he literally wrote the book. the book is called "forensic pathology." he wrote the book called "forensic pathology." his expertise is second to none. the two mes the state called, you have polar extremes in
at the time mr. martin was shot. this is consistent with mr. zimmerman's account. that he, that mr. martin, was over him leaning forward at the time he was shot. >> obviously if you're leaning forward the implication that you're on top because the clothes are hanging away from your body. so does this mean the state can't get a conviction? "out front" tonight our legal analystses. great to have all of you with us. i want to start with you, mark. dr. dimaio has impressive...
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you have to suggest to the jury some reason that mr. zimmerman is out for trayvon martin. if it's racial, if it's because he thinks he's a criminal, there has to be the ill will, the hatred. for them that was one way of showing it without overtly calling him a racist. you'll notice they didn't do that during the trial. >> tanya, if you're saying the reason george zimmerman ignored 911 operators, went after him with a loaded weapon, is because he has it out for kids like this, isn't that the message you're sending to the jury? >> i think it very nuanced. i think the prosecution tried to explain to the jury why this happened, why trayvon martin looked so suspicious to george zimmerman, why you can conclude that he had ill will toward trayvon martin when he followed him, when he pursued him and when he made all these false assumptions about him without sort of adding that extra layer of proving that this was a racially motivated homicide, that he sought out to kill trayvon martin because he was black. i think that would have been adding more of a burden to their case than the
you have to suggest to the jury some reason that mr. zimmerman is out for trayvon martin. if it's racial, if it's because he thinks he's a criminal, there has to be the ill will, the hatred. for them that was one way of showing it without overtly calling him a racist. you'll notice they didn't do that during the trial. >> tanya, if you're saying the reason george zimmerman ignored 911 operators, went after him with a loaded weapon, is because he has it out for kids like this, isn't that...
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>> yes, sir. >> are you coloring or changing your testimony at all simply to help mr. zimmerman in what you might perceive to be a time of need? >> not at all, sir. this courtroom is about truth. at some point in time, even though this is personally very hard for me, had this is the place truth is supposed to come out. >> is that why you decided to deal with whatever demons existed from 45 years ago and still testify concerning this event and those events here today? >> yes. >> nothing further, your honor. >> whose idea was it to listen to the recording saturday? >> it was my own, sir. >> okay. thank you, sir. >> may mr. donnelly be excused? >> yes, your honor. >> thank you very much, sir. you rex cuesare excused. counsel, approach the bench. >> joining me now, nbc news legal analyst, lisa bloom. that was george zimmerman's friend, of course, john donnelly taking the stand, lisa. a lot of attention has been paid to the 911 call, various people on both sides, both the prosecution and the defense, saying it was either george zimmerman or trayvon martin. does that effecti
>> yes, sir. >> are you coloring or changing your testimony at all simply to help mr. zimmerman in what you might perceive to be a time of need? >> not at all, sir. this courtroom is about truth. at some point in time, even though this is personally very hard for me, had this is the place truth is supposed to come out. >> is that why you decided to deal with whatever demons existed from 45 years ago and still testify concerning this event and those events here today?...
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. >> i actually reached out to mr. o'mara when i saw the case unfolding obviously like erchs every one else. i reached out to him because i thought i had a unique perspective as to coming to a reallistic conclusion on things. being able to proffer and look at things and just render my background training and experience to him to see if it helped. my experience has been i wanted to ensure -- the most common question, i reach out to a defense attorney as a police officer or a former police officer, and the truth is there are a lot of people that can do what i do -- there is plenty of experts available, and i reached out to mr. o'mara because it was my belief that if i reviewed the material and felt that i could be of no assistance, i would not be -- i would not do anything to hinder the progression for anybody in this case whatsoever. but if it was something i felt i could help with, i went to one party, if it was an opportunity to be of assistance, i knew i would be able to do so so i reached out to him and to see if he
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zimmerman's account that he -- that mr. martin was over hip, leaning forward, at the time he was shot. >> reporter: that is zimmerman's claim. martin was on top of him, beating his head into a concrete sidewalk and he killed the teenager to save his own life. prosecutors asking whether the gunshot wound could indicate that martin was pulling away from zimmerman. >> trayvon martin was backing up, backing away in terms of providing an angle, whether he was goingrd t forward, you can' say. >> all i said is it's consistent with his account, mr. zimmerman's account, that's all. >> reporter: di maio testified zimmerman's head had at least six injuries, consistent with having his head hit concrete. as this divisive case nears its e end, the cities have develop, a respond plan for the verdict. the sheriff's office in broward county put out this public service announcement urging calm. >> i'm sheriff scott israel and law enforcement does have your back. >> reporter: one more note about that computerized animation that zimmerman's de
zimmerman's account that he -- that mr. martin was over hip, leaning forward, at the time he was shot. >> reporter: that is zimmerman's claim. martin was on top of him, beating his head into a concrete sidewalk and he killed the teenager to save his own life. prosecutors asking whether the gunshot wound could indicate that martin was pulling away from zimmerman. >> trayvon martin was backing up, backing away in terms of providing an angle, whether he was goingrd t forward, you can'...
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zimmerman. >> is it not also consistent with mr. martin pulling away from zimmerman on the ground? and you would have the same angle, he's pulling away, and zimmerman's shooting him at that time? >> yes. >> reporter: defense attorneys also called george zimmerman's former neighbor to testify via video conference because she was too ill to appear in court. eloise dilligard told the court the night of the shooting she recognized zimmerman's truck parked near the crime scene. o'mara also asked dilligard who she thought was screaming on the video that night. >> based on the fact that i've only heard george's voice and it was a male voice, i would say it was his. >> reporter: george howell, cnn, sanford, florida. >> our thanks to george for that report. another big day in court today. >>> in newly sealed court documents, the aaron hernandez murder case revealed that one or two accomplices claims that hernandez admitted to fatally shooting odin lloyd. among the evidence seized from the home, surveillance video from after the murder that shows the former nfl star holding a gun. investigat
zimmerman. >> is it not also consistent with mr. martin pulling away from zimmerman on the ground? and you would have the same angle, he's pulling away, and zimmerman's shooting him at that time? >> yes. >> reporter: defense attorneys also called george zimmerman's former neighbor to testify via video conference because she was too ill to appear in court. eloise dilligard told the court the night of the shooting she recognized zimmerman's truck parked near the crime scene....
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account that he, that mr. martin was over him leaning forward at the time he was shot. >> the defense expert analyzing these photos supporting zimmerman's claim that trayvon martin was pummeling his first and smashing his head into the walk kay -- walkway but on prosecution they exploited the fact that this expert has been paid $2,000 to testify and cannot say who instigated the altercation. >> you can't say whether it was trayvon martin defending himself or george zimmerman defending himself in terms of when this first started? >> when it first started, that's correct, sir. >> i'm not having a jury it is back here for another 45 minutes doing nothing. >> this morning an mid to deborah judge postponed a critical hearing on a defense produced animation it wants the jury to see. the animation is based on crime scene data a 911 call and one partial eyewitness account. itself serving inaccurate and confusing. >> mainly juror development in egypt as the country leader announced a transition plan. interim president
account that he, that mr. martin was over him leaning forward at the time he was shot. >> the defense expert analyzing these photos supporting zimmerman's claim that trayvon martin was pummeling his first and smashing his head into the walk kay -- walkway but on prosecution they exploited the fact that this expert has been paid $2,000 to testify and cannot say who instigated the altercation. >> you can't say whether it was trayvon martin defending himself or george zimmerman...
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zimmerman's account that he -- that mr. martin was over him, leaning forward at the time he was shot. >> shepard: a long day of testimony for that witness. he was clear cut. the defense team argues that george zimmerman shot trayvon martin in self-defense. prosecutors, of course, call it murder. and they point out that expert can't actually determine who started the fight. >> you can't testify as to who threw the first punch. >> that's correct, sir. >> in fact, you can't really testify whether there was a first punch thrown. >> that's correct, sir. >> shepard: by the way that doctor has 40 years of experience and says he charges about 400 bucks an hour for his testimony. he has also testified for defense at other big murder trials, including drew peterson and phil specter. juries convicted both of those men. we have team fox coverage tonight. trace gallagher on the issue of race in this trial. first, let's get to phil keating who is outside the courthouse in seminole county, florida. phil, today the defense addressed george
zimmerman's account that he -- that mr. martin was over him, leaning forward at the time he was shot. >> shepard: a long day of testimony for that witness. he was clear cut. the defense team argues that george zimmerman shot trayvon martin in self-defense. prosecutors, of course, call it murder. and they point out that expert can't actually determine who started the fight. >> you can't testify as to who threw the first punch. >> that's correct, sir. >> in fact, you can't...
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. >> this was consistent with mr. zimmerman's account that mr. martin was over him leaning forward at the time he was shot. >> reporter: that was mr. zimmerman's claim. martin was over him beating his head into the sidewalk and he pulled the trigger to save his own life. >> trayvon martin was backing up backing away in terms of providing an angle or whether he was going to move forward. you can't say. >> all i said is it's consistent with it. >> he had six injuries with his fight with martin injured with having his head hit concrete. as this divisive case nears the end, they have developed a response plan for the verdict. the sheriff's office in broward county florida, put out this public service announcement. >> i'm sheriff israel and law enforcement does have your back. >> it will be interesting to hear what her demeanor is and everyone else's after the marathon session. she essentially walked out last night trying to consider all the rulings. she'll have to rule on two of them this morning whether to allow a defense animation of the confrontat
. >> this was consistent with mr. zimmerman's account that mr. martin was over him leaning forward at the time he was shot. >> reporter: that was mr. zimmerman's claim. martin was over him beating his head into the sidewalk and he pulled the trigger to save his own life. >> trayvon martin was backing up backing away in terms of providing an angle or whether he was going to move forward. you can't say. >> all i said is it's consistent with it. >> he had six injuries...
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. >> on a scale of one oten where would mr. zimmerman lie? >> like i said level one. >> the judge ruled marijuana in trayvon martin's system is admitted into evidence. court is expected to start earlier today, 8:30 a.m. eastern time and we expect the judge, chris and kate, to rule on whether a computer re-enactment will be able to be admitted in this trial. we'll also expect to hear from more witnesses, more experts in this case. >> george howell following it in sanford, thanks so much. >>> coming up next on "new day," john king with our political gut check. >>> plus a young mom from michigan caught on tape trying to hire a hitman to kill her husband. you have to hear it to believe it. >>> here's another one for you, if fish aren't biting call this guy, he'll catch your dinner, no pole included. there it is, you thought i was kidding, right? >> i did. members of the american postal worker's union handle more than 165 billion letters and packages a year. that's about 34 million pounds of mail every day. ever wonder what this costs you as a tax
. >> on a scale of one oten where would mr. zimmerman lie? >> like i said level one. >> the judge ruled marijuana in trayvon martin's system is admitted into evidence. court is expected to start earlier today, 8:30 a.m. eastern time and we expect the judge, chris and kate, to rule on whether a computer re-enactment will be able to be admitted in this trial. we'll also expect to hear from more witnesses, more experts in this case. >> george howell following it in sanford,...
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martin being over mr. zimmerman. >> is it not also consistent with mr. martin pulling away zimmerman on the ground? and you would have the same angle, he's pulling away, and zimmerman's shooting him at that time. >> yeah. >> reporter: defense attorneys also called george zimmerman's former neighbor to testify via video conference because she was too ill to appear in court. eloise dilligard told the court the night of the shooting she recognized zimmerman's truck parked near the crime scene. o'mara asked dilligard who she thought was screaming that night. >> based on the fact i've only heard george's voice and it's a male light, i would say it was his. >> reporter: so, chris, it was a long, long night yesterday. you know, and you could tell -- you could see these attorneys getting upset. especially don west. the way he was talking to judge debra nelson. i want you to listen to just a little bit of what we heard last night. >> -- said i would offer him the opportunity right now to apologize to me for suggesting that i stood by silently with information tha
martin being over mr. zimmerman. >> is it not also consistent with mr. martin pulling away zimmerman on the ground? and you would have the same angle, he's pulling away, and zimmerman's shooting him at that time. >> yeah. >> reporter: defense attorneys also called george zimmerman's former neighbor to testify via video conference because she was too ill to appear in court. eloise dilligard told the court the night of the shooting she recognized zimmerman's truck parked near...
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zimmerman and his his decision that brought us here. taking something from the be a instruct and giving the jurors an example of a real life scenario. i think he could have done a little bit more but at the same time i like the way he presented that. >> well, john guy, he'll have at least another hour tomorrow after the defense delivers its closing argument. and maybe they're watching you right now, jose. maybe they'll come up with those lines during the closing argument. jeffrey, hold on for a moment. we're going to continue our conversation. we're taking a close look at one of the most controversial parts of the prosecution's closing arguments, the insinuations of racial profiling. to be an even better company - and to keep our commitments. and we've made a big commitment to america. bp supports nearly 250,000 jobs here. through all of our energy operations, we invest more in the u.s. than any other place in the world. in fact, we've invested over $55 billion here in the last five years - making bp america's largest energy investor. o
zimmerman and his his decision that brought us here. taking something from the be a instruct and giving the jurors an example of a real life scenario. i think he could have done a little bit more but at the same time i like the way he presented that. >> well, john guy, he'll have at least another hour tomorrow after the defense delivers its closing argument. and maybe they're watching you right now, jose. maybe they'll come up with those lines during the closing argument. jeffrey, hold on...
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if mr. zimmerman gets convicted of anything, the first person he's going after is his lawyer and he's going to say he was hamming it up for the cameras instead of working on my case. i think they feel very confident and very comfortable moving forward. and so did the prosecution at the beginning of this case. i'm not sure how he feels right now, though. >> a lot of us didn't think he would cross-examine trayvon martin's mother but he did. do you think he's going to call george zimmerman? >> i would say no but after seeing him call trayvon martin's mother and asking him if trayvon martin was responsible for his own death and now calling tracy martin, i don't know what to expect. i think it's possible now. >> rather, it's zimmerman's decision, not o'mara's. >> i'm sure that o'mara will have a huge influence on george zimmerman but, martin, go ahead. >> that was the point i was going to make. we already know that george zimmerman wants to speak out. he went on fox television. i'm sure that mark
if mr. zimmerman gets convicted of anything, the first person he's going after is his lawyer and he's going to say he was hamming it up for the cameras instead of working on my case. i think they feel very confident and very comfortable moving forward. and so did the prosecution at the beginning of this case. i'm not sure how he feels right now, though. >> a lot of us didn't think he would cross-examine trayvon martin's mother but he did. do you think he's going to call george zimmerman?...